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Wednesday, 11 October 2023

Meeting 1139 - Evaluation & International Speech Contest


This was the second evening, contestants competed in two contests for a place, so they could represent Sandgate Toastmasters at the Area 8 Conference.

The room was set up, the judges organised and the briefing conducted, before stand-in Sergeant at Arms Marlene called the meeting to order. She ran us through the emergency procedure in case of an alien invasion and read the mission statement.

President Gail H opened the meeting and welcomed our returning guests Ashley, Paul and George, our first-time guest JP as well as our visitors to the club which were to remain nameless until the end of the evening.

Gail H also had the pleasure to hand out medallions to John at the start of the evening for his achievements at the previous contest night.

But then there was no stopping: Our first contest was the Evaluation Contest. It was chaired by Jonathon.

Our contestants were Paul, Shaun, Helen and Christiane.

Part of the contest is a 5-7 minutes speech by a guest, a 5 minutes break where the contestants write up their evaluation notes and are then called in one after the other to present.

The test speech was given by Tracey and was titled "Breathe Through Your Eyes". She even had handouts for the audience.

Timekeepers Gokul and Gail H kept the contest running smoothly with no disqualifications.

Sergeants at Arms Trevor and Marlene ensured that the contestants were seated and well kept out of earshot.

Tally counters Gail W and Michael ensured that the right placegetters were calculated.

The placegetters were:

  1. Christiane

  2. Shaun

  3. Paul

After conclusion of the first contest, it was time for Elizabeth to present the raffle. Because of the surprising sporting competitions lately, she brought a bag full of edible goodies to celebrate your wins or drown your sorrows. Laughs were heard when she unpacked a car freshener her son added as well as her loved, but nearly dead aloe vera plant (hopefully going to a new home striving there).



Supper was provided by our Contest Sergeants at Arms Marlene and Trevor and the break gave us ample opportunity to sample the goodies, purchase raffle tickets and catch up among each other, but especially with the guests to the club.


The last club contest for 2023 was the International Speech Contest and was chaired by Shaun.

He called on contestants:

  1. Christiane - "That Turned Out Better Than Expected" 

  2. John - "Lessons From a Small Nation With Big Ideas"

  3. Arun - "What Makes You a Leader"

The timing lights were manned by Michael and Gail H.

Tally counters were Gail W and Paul.

The placegetters were:

  1. John

  2. Christiane

  3. Arun

To finish the meeting, Elizabeth asked guest JP to draw the winning ticket and John can celebrate his win in the International Speech contest with a bag full of goodies.

In closing, President Gail H thanked the judges by offering a small token of appreciation (we hope you win some money). Visiting judges were Jenny as Chief Judge, Suresh, Kirsty, Mark and Chris. Our own member Trish was also a judge.

Christiane (for Evaluation contest) and John (for International Speech contest and Table Topics contest) will join Gail W (for Humourous Speech contest) at the Area 8 Conference in North Lakes on November 5 to represent Sandgate Toastmasters.

Mark this day into your calendar to come and support our contestants!

We will have a normal meeting in-between on October 24.

Wednesday, 27 September 2023

Meeting 1138 - "Sleuthing"

We examined not only mysteries, but also how to become a better speaker and leader. Getting the feedback from 5 guests (with one of them joining Sandgate Toastmasters) really helps to improve our support for our members.

 

Sergeant at Arms Helen called the meeting to order and read us the mission statement. She then gave us an anecdote about being in the wrong place if we feel undervalued.

President Gail H was kept busy in her opening: She not only welcomed Area Director Suzanne to our meeting, but also two returning guests (Daniel and George) and three new guests (Ben, Ashley and Paul). Afterwards, she handed out the medallions to the first three places of last meeting's contests (John is missing in both pictures).

Toastmaster Christiane reviewed where the word sleuth came from before calling on Liz We to give us the programme changes.

Liz had secured an additional impromptu speech (and an evaluator) to be added to the agenda.

The toast "Solving the mystery" was given by Gail W who introduced us to various different sleuths over the lifetime of the word.

Word Master Gail H gave us "Mystery" as the word of the evening which flowed very nicely with the Round Robin, speeches and Table Topics.

Round Robin Master Helen gave us a conundrum to solve: "What is a mystery to you?" With many laughs, we started and ended with abstruse hate between cats and dogs, but heard in-between about relationships and communication problems (including children lying). We also explored sea travel, traffic jams and truck dynamics as well as where the Blu Tack had gone. Helen encouraged us afterwards to write a speech about any of those given examples.

 

 

Our next segment were the (prepared?) speeches:

  1. Will presented his Icebreaker titled "The Power of Books" (Dynamic Leadership, Level 1, project 1) reviewing the five books he gave to his son for his 17th birthday. It was expertly evaluated by Trish.
  2. Trish presented an impromptu speech titled "Journey of an introvert speaker" which encouraged us all to not hide in the corner, but step out and see how we can make the world a better place by bringing our story and expertise to it. Trevor evaluated Trish's speech.

Raffle Master Peter started his segment with the subtlety of "Let's go to Bracken Ridge" which got our attention. He delved into the reasons why you should and could with the evening's raffle.

Timer Carmy demystified us how we were running time wise before we went into our supper break.

Helen and Liz We had supplied a scrumptious spread which kept us clustered at the table catching up with each other. We also had the opportunity to purchase raffle tickets and get pointers about the segments for the second half.

 

Table Topic Master Michael called us to baffling topics which meant we needed to be all ears. He called on fellow agents:

  1. Helen - Have you ever done any sleuthing of your own? When her beloved plant about to flower went missing, she dug deep to discover her then-husband had mowed it over.
  2. Gail H - If you could write your own murder mystery: What would the title be and what would it be about? The title is a cliffhanger, however, it would be a tricky to solve murder story: a bad person is killed by a good person who is getting accolades for his action.
  3. Peter - Every good detective has a side kick. Choosing from any past or present prime minister, president or politician, who would you choose to be your trusted side kick? Peter was quick to select Bob Hawk, but wasn't sure who would end up the side kick of who.
  4. Suzanne - You're Batman and you've be given some intel that the penguin is doing a spot of shopping at Chermside Westfield in disguise. What shop would you go to first to look for him and why? The toy shop since it has those cooling water canons.
  5. Christiane - You've been suspicious for a while that your neighbours are involved in criminal activity. It's 10pm at night and you're doing a spot of sleuthing through your window into their backyard. What can you see them doing? Using a thick stick loading the wheelie bin with a carpet snake (the 14th since they lived there for two years).
  6. Will - From time to time, detectives require the services of a K9 to help sniff out and chase down a bad guy or gal. Putting a dog aside, what other animal would you choose to help you fight crime? Although nothing can be better than a canine, the inferior second choice would be an eagle with cameras.
  7. Gail W - You have always wanted to be a super hero. What is your superhero name and could you share with us your super power? Dancing queen, to dance pirouettes around the robbers and so manoeuvre them into the vortex.
  8. Carmy - You're a sleuth who has the power to become a fly. Whose wall are you landing on? And what can you see? Being on the wall in a bank, snooping out all the codes to get to the money. For the bank robbery, she will leave this to her side kick.

The topics were evaluated by Paul and Shaun.

Area Director Suzanne addressed Sandgate Toastmasters with a clap to ourselves for our success. It shows the most in our support for each other.

Word Master Gail H congratulated all Round Robin speakers since "Mystery" was used by each one, including our guests. Guest Ashley even used it three times in her answer. Even with her ample opportunity of speaking time, Toastmaster Christiane became the runner-up to Trish who used the word at least 32 times during the evening.

In her general evaluation, Liz We congratulated all evaluators on being encouraging while giving concise points of improvement.

In her final timing report, Carmy continued her precise delivery of timings for the second half.

Raffle Master Peter asked guest Ashley to draw the winning ticket and the enigma was lifted: Helen is the new owner of Cluedo, investigating the murder mystery game while eating chocolates and sipping coffee at Round Table Coffee in Gawain Rd, Bracken Ridge.

In closing, President Gail H asked our guests for feedback which was focused on our humour we incorporate during the meeting. (The secret is out!)

She then handed awards to:

  • Best Speech -
    Will

  • Best Table Topic -
    Christiane

  • Best Evaluation -
    Shaun

  • Most Improved -
    Will

We are looking forward to a second round of contests (International Speech and Evaluation) at our next meeting on October 10.

Wednesday, 13 September 2023

Meeting 1137 - Table Topics & Humorous Speech Contest

It was the meeting where brave contestants would battle in the impromptu speech as well as the Humorous Speech contest.

Preparation is everything when it comes to contests: Chief Judge Jenny was getting the final touches on our certificates.

Stand-in Sergeant at Arms Marlene called the meeting to order with humour about the facilities. She also read us the mission statement.

President Gail H opened the meeting and welcomed our first-time guests George, Lara and Hayley.

It was time to hand over control to Contest Chair Jonathon who conducted the Table Topics contest.

How would you have replied to: "My day started off badly when..."?

TT contestants and placegetters
Our contestants were John, Arun, Christiane, Paul and Shaun who in turn gave us an impromptu minispeech to above topic.

Timekeepers Carmy and Gail H kept the contestants well timed, so that we didn't have any disqualifications.

Sergeant at Arms Elizabeth and Marlene ensured that the contestants didn't hear the answer of the previous contestant(s), so that it was a fair game for all.

Tallycounters Gail W and Rosie ensured that the right placegetters were calculated.

The placegetters were:

  1. John
  2. Shaun
  3. Christiane


After the first exciting contest, it was time for Paul to introduce the raffle with such humour (since he doesn't have such a close connection as another member of the club, his bottle of spirit was a bit smaller) that we all bought a lot of tickets in the supper break.

Supper was provided by Gail H and John.

We used the break to catch up with the visitors to our club as well as among members.

The second half of the meeting started off with an impromptu Round Robin by Liz We answering the question: What was your shortest, yet longest journey?

Humorous Speech contestants and placegetters

As Contest Chair for the Humorous Speech Contest, Liz We then called on the contestants:

  1. Christiane - "On The Throne"
  2. John - "Shopping strife with my wife"
  3. Arun - "One day I will be old enough"
  4. Gail W - "Puppy Love"
  5. Jonathon - "You'r never too old..."

The timing lights were manned again by Carmy and Gail H.

Marlene was Sergeant at Arms positioning the contestants' props. 

Tallycounters were Rosie and Elizabeth.

The placegetters were:

  1. Gail W
  2. Christiane
  3. John


To finish the meeting, Paul asked Shaun to draw the raffle (since Moreton Bay Division Director Suresh didn't feel right to pick his own raffle). Irony had it that Shaun draw Suresh' ticket.

In closing, President Gail H thanked the judges by offering a small token of appreciation. Visiting judges were Jenny, Suresh & Chris.



 

John (for Table Topics contest) and Gail W (for Humorous Speech contest) will represent Sandgate Toastmasters on November 5 at the Area 8 Conference in North Lakes. Mark this day into your calendar!

Wednesday, 30 August 2023

Meeting 1136 - "Cats or Dogs"

There are exceptions to any rule, but Paul gave us ample examples of his comrades at home: a dog and a cat. We also learnt why you should set an alarm clock when patting a cat and how loud a dog can snore.

 

 

The meeting was called to order by Sergeant at Arms Helen, who not only gave us the mission statement, but also a circus joke.

President Gail H opened the meeting and was honoured to induct our three new cronies to the gang: Will, Liz A and Shaun. Their mentors will be Paul, Liz We and Arun, respectively.

Toastmaster of the evening Paul welcomed us to the meeting by describing a nightly routine at his house.

When he called on Vice President Education Liz We, she was happy to report that we shouldn't have any changes (unfortunately we had to cut one speech in the end).

The toast to "Cats or Dogs" was delivered by John who gave us a choice to toast to just one. There were some loud voices toasting only to one of them, but the majority liked both.

Our new comrade Liz A was up next being the Word Master. The word of the evening was "companion" which Liz A explained was a suitable word since pets can be chums, mates and pals.

Round Robin Master Will posted the question to us: Cats or dogs - what is your preference and why? 

This brought out striking replies with the majority voting for dogs (eight to one), although it must be said that Trish, Helen, Liz A, Gail H and Liz We have no clear preference and had both types as friends in their household. The mob went wild when Trish did use the word of the evening a dozen times.

It was time for our prepared projects:

  1. As part of her Question-and-Answer Session (Innovative Planning path, Level 4, elective project), Gail H presented first a speech titled "Making a Project Linus Quilt". After giving us background information about the society, she presented some of her own work and then let us ask her questions about the presentation and topic. It was a highly engaged Q&A with Gail being relaxed while answering. The project and speech were evaluated by Christiane.
  2. Trish's speech "Biggest Communication Myth" (Motivational Strategies path, Level 2, project 2: Understanding your Communication Style) made us all think about how we address certain cliques at boardroom meetings. She commented that there is no wrong communication style, but some might work better with the differences between the sexes. (It was taken on by Toastmaster Paul later in the meeting when he gave us the explanation why he prefered dogs over cats because of his cat)
    Shaun evaluated her speech.
  3. Marlene presented her speech "Don't Look at the Dog" (Engaging Humour, Level 3, project 1: Engage Your Audience with Humour) with a twist in the story: Her neighbour got her good. Not only did the story fit perfect into the theme of the evening, but made us all laugh when Marlene impersonated her neighbour's dog. We were all amazed on the flip card Marlene used to remind her of the next segment of her story. It was evaluated by Helen.

Since our fourth speaker was stuck at work, Liz We was ready to step in as Table Topic Master to call on:

  1. Crony Carmy - Would you spent the money to bring your pet to Australia? Carmy gave us a clear negation, but told us about a time she brought a puppy to Thursday Island for her son. She concluded her story with the sad Good-Bye: when they left Thursday Island three years later, she left the dog behind because of the associated travel cost.
  2. Ally Will - Would you dress up your animal? Will gave us the suggestion of having a parade of Linus quilt dressed up dogs and cats, but decided that his favourite on his dog was a super-hero outfit.
  3. Accomplice John - Which animal would you like to be? After going through options and pros and cons, he arrived as a childhood memory, so settled for golden retriever.
  4. Playmate Trish - Which kind of cat would you like to be? Trish expanding our thinking when we hear cat and settled on panther or cheetah.
  5. Aide Helen - Tell us about a camping holiday with a pet of yours which caused disruption. Helen took her dog to cold Lithgow. Her protector only had to sleep the first night outside the tent.

Paul called on Timer Rosie for the Table Topic evaluations and stumped her. He was after the timing.

Afterwards, Carmy presented her raffle: making us laugh by regifting Toastmasters' gifts on the theme of "Tea or Coffee".

 

We used the supper break to purchase tickets (note the notes to see how popular the raffle was), write our well-wishes for Chris (he is currently in hospital with a compound fracture after a motorbike accident), sample some goodies provided by Liz We and exchange news.



The second half was a shorter part with us voting for our awards while Paul told us about his vet sagas (differences between his cat and dog), Liz A reporting on eight associates using the word (with Trish being the winner), Rosie giving us her final timing report and Carmy asking John to draw the raffle (with Trish being the winner).


 

 

 

 

To conclude the meeting of our fraternity, Gail reminded us about the next meeting being contest night as well as handing awards to:

Best Speech - Marlene

Best Evaluation - Shaun

Best Table Topic - John

Most Improved - Will


 

 

Our next meeting on September 12 will be our Humourous Speech and Table Topic contest night.

Thursday, 24 August 2023

Meeting 1135 - "Showtime"

The Royal Brisbane Show, affectionately known as "The Ekka", was on last week, so dazzling Toastmaster Liz grandly took the opportunity to give us impressive statistics about its wondrous beginnings and the remarkable journey onwards.


Extraordinary Sergeant at Arms Helen called the meeting to order before reading the mission statement. She then told us a conspicuous Dad joke (or should that be a Mum joke?).

Prominent President Gail H opened the meeting.

Stunning Toastmaster Liz We firstly called on Vice President Education to find out about any changes to the meeting order. For those members who printed the program after 3pm, there were no changes.

The Toast "To our speakers tonight" was held by charming Carmy.

Wonderful Wordmaster Michael gave us "Striking" with a handicap for dynamite Trish to give us all a fair chance.

Afterwards, compelling Gail H introduced us to the fascinating topic of the Round Robin: Which is your most favourite (or worst) ride at a show?

Can you tell, that some members had the same favourite ride?

What was also noteworthy, is the laughs that some responses got when we were reminded of rides long in the past.


It was then time for the impressive prepared speeches:

  1. Arun presented his Icebreaker speech titled "I am not there yet" (Strategic Relationships path, Level 1, project 1: Icebreaker) eminently telling us about his journey within Toastmasters and what it meant for his career change. Jonathon evaluated the speech in detail.
  2. Trish spoke about "Facebook Live Challenge" (Motivational Strategies path, Level 1, project 4: Researching and Presenting) and gave us exceptional tips to re-purpose and leverage knowledge/ words we already have. The presentation was earnestly evaluated by Jonathon.
  3. Chris introduced us to a medical innovation with his speech "Anti-D" (Innovative Planning path, Level 3, elective project: Using Descriptive Language) by evidently utilising descriptive words. It was carefully evaluated by Christiane.

What better raffle price than your own show bag to take home? Liz We enticed us through and through with abundant chocolate selections and a bottle of wine to wash it down.

Telling Timer Helen kept us on time throughout the meeting, so we were able to go into supper ahead of time.

 

This gave us ample time to purchase raffle tickets as well as sample the fascinating goodies provided by Carmy and Trish. 

 

To Reply or Reply all, this is the question: In her soapbox segment, Christiane tremendously made us aware of her two biggest annoyances when it comes to email etiquette: subject line should match the body of the email plus when to use reply (to thank an officer for their report) or reply all (when asked for volunteers for a task).

Gail W ran the Table Topics segment stunningly. She called on:

  1. Arrestive Arun - What is the silliest purchase you have ever made? Face cream, but not realising for what it was.
  2. Telling Trish - What Family Tradition do you still follow? She is intensely focused on Christmas: a different T-shirt on every day in December, full turkey feast on Christmas Day.
  3. Lofty Liz We - What was the most scary amusement ride you’ve been on? She meticulously told us about a roller coaster ride as well as running after special needs children up the Helter skelter ride (and needing to come back down)
  4. Compelling Carmy - What is the worst junk food experience you’ve had? Her sister gave her fruit fritters, not realising that it had pineapple in it. Because of her food allergy, she had to assiduously suffer the consequences.
  5. Jazzy Jonathon - What is your opinion of fireworks and the costs associated with them? Don't allow the magic of fireworks be stopped.
  6. Memorable Michael - What is your favourite breed of dog and why? After tossing options around reputably, he surprisingly took a raincheck on the decision.
     

The responses were efficiently evaluated by Christiane and Gail H.

Handsome Wordmaster Michael reported that his "right hand was kept busy" during the meeting noting the excessive usage of "striking". Due to the handicap awarded to Trish, Liz We just took the lead by a insignificant margin.

Marlene was our General Evaluator and summarised the meeting prominently, giving outstanding suggestions to various roles.

When it came time for the raffle draw, Raffle Master Liz We asked our guest Daniel (who attended the second half) to draw the winner: Beautiful Helen.

 

In her closing remarks, cogent President Gail H reminded us of the Speak-a-thon next Tuesday as well as of the upcoming contests.

She also asked guest Daniel for feedback, before she awarded:

Best Speech - Arun

Best Evaluation - Jonathon

Best Table Topic - Liz We & Jonathon

Most Improved - Michael



Sandgate Toastmasters is meeting on August 29 (fifth Tuesday) for a Speak-a-thon.

Wednesday, 9 August 2023

Meeting 1134 - "Change or be Changed"

Learn to transform within an ever-evolving world or you might be "forced to be changed" were the opening words of Toastmaster Arun when he first explained the topic to Sandgate Toastmasters and its guests.



The meeting was called to order by Sergeant at Arms Helen with a slight alteration: she welcomed our first-time guests Liz and Amit as well as our returning guests Will and Shaun.

Upon popular request, she cited half an explanation (leaving us in suspense until after supper) of railway gauges.

Helen then read the mission statement before handing to President Gail H to open the meeting.

Gail H thanked all members who participated at the Einbunpin Festival and was glad to see guests from the stall.

Toastmaster Arun first called on Vice President Liz for the program changes who was overjoyed that there were no mutation necessary.

Next, Rosie gave us the toast "To Courage" which is the second line of the serendipity prayer.

Subsequently, Chris presented a challenging word of the evening with metamorphosis meaning a profound change of form or structure.

In the Round Robin led by Carmy, we were encouraged to answer the question: "What positive changes have you made in your life?" It shows that the question brought a lot of interest, since all of our guests also spoke on the topic with answers ranging from health (activity level and diet) over household chores and changing taps to marriage and career changes.

In our speech segment, we were treated to an Icebreaker, followed by two speeches.

  1. Michael told us an emotional snippet about his own life in his speech "The highs and lows of horse racing" (Presentation Mastery path, Level 1, project 1: Icebreaker) with a few open ends to be closed in his future speeches. The speech was evaluated by Paul.
  2. Helen finished her speech titled "Humble Beginnings" (Presentation Mastery path, Level 1, project 2: Writing a Speech with Purpose) about the tulip with a question to us all: "How can we idolise a thing?" Rosie evaluated the informative speech by encouraging to spend more emphasis on the opening and conclusion to help the audience remember a speech.
  3. Christiane's speech "Attracting more... (Fill in the blank)" (Persuasive Influence path, Level 4, elective project: Public Relations Strategies) was a reflection on her public relations plan for Sandgate Toastmasters' social media campaign. It was evaluated by Gokul who was referencing back to his opening segment of which purpose Christiane's speech should fulfill.

Arun presentation of his raffle was a very short variation, but he took it with humour when his transfiguration was pointed out.

Throughout the evening, Gail W kept us running smoothly by using the timing lights and giving us brief timing reports.

At the supper break with supper provided by Jonathon and Christiane, we were able to eat, drink, catch up and laugh together.

The second half of our meeting started with the promised completion of the railroad gauges by Helen before it was time for Table Topics.

Table Topic Master Jonathon called on:

  1. Gokul - "The greatest discovery of all time is that a person can change his future by merely changing his attitude." Does it strike a chord with you? - Yes, especially for him when it comes to electric cars.
  2. Narelle - Can you share a time in your life when you chose to change something about yourself? What inspired that change, and what did you learn from the experience? - Cutting six-weekly hairdo expenses for functions helped her to save a deposit for a house.
  3. Chris - Leaders often are agents of change. Can you speak to a time when you've influenced others to change their thought or behaviours? Or, conversely, when someone has profoundly changed you? - He spoke of his retired work colleague and how Chris has learnt that the fun stuff at work also entails paperwork.
  4. Rosie - Our tastes in food, music, or hobbies can change as we grow. Can you tell us about something you used to dislike but now enjoy, or vice versa? What prompted this change? - She used to love eating pork (even with poo), but now dislikes it because it doesn't agree with her tummy. She used to dislike oysters, but her husband has introduced her to a delicious version.
  5. Christiane - Can you tell us about a time when you moved to a new city or country? How did you adapt to the change, and what were the most memorable experiences? - Coming to Australia, firstly standing corrected by her coordinator, then not being able to distinguish between acceptable phrases and trade language.
  6. Liz A (guest) - Have you ever taken up a new hobby or learned a new skill that changed your daily routine? Can you share your journey and how it made you feel? - Growing up, she wasn't allowed to do sport, because she had to learn how to run a household. With her move to Brisbane, she has taken up Crossfit and loving it.
  7. Shaun (guest) - Technology is often a driver of change in our lives. Can you share your thoughts on how technology has changed your life, either positively or negatively, and how you've adapted to those changes? - Although he built his own computer when he was 14 years old, he can't keep up with technology. Others made triple his income by sitting in front of a ring light.
  8. Michael - Have you ever tried to change a habit, either by breaking a bad one or forming a new one? Can you share your struggles and successes with this change? - Changing to a dairy- and gluten-free diet made him feel overall better, but is a challenge when going to fast food eateries with his kids.

The above Table Topics were evaluated by Liz We and Marlene who focussed on the use of descriptive language and personal stories, respectively.

Sergeant at Arms Helen collected the votes while Arun gave us more examples what is required to keep up with the amendments.

The business session chaired by Liz We resulted in a moved motion.

Chris reported on the perceived difficulty to pronounce the word of the evening and declared revamped Rosie as the winner.

In her general evaluation, Gail H pointed out the participation of all members in meetings.

Following this, Arun asked guest Liz to draw the raffle winner and brought a smile to Rosie being able to take a gift card home.

President Gail H closed the meeting by asking our guests for feedback with Will, Shaun and Liz announcing to become members. (No pressure for Amit being very welcome to come back and observe as a guest for another time).

Finally she awarded:

  • Best Speech to Michael
  • Best Table Topic to Narelle
  • Best Evaluation to Marlene
  • Most Improved to Michael

Our next meeting is on August 22 with a third meeting in August being on August 29.